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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

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perhaps but it could be pushing my technical skills here - until yesterday (or the day before) I had never even removed the pads on a bike with discs (5 of the 6 bikes we have are standard V brakes).
Seriously, removing the pads is more technical.....just have a looky look at the vids.
 
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Seriously, removing the pads is more technical.....just have a looky look at the vids.
just been nosying through this document (attached) and it seems that at least 1 of the pistons is doing what it is meant to... Can't actually remove the caliper off the bike frame though because I don't have the correct hex/tork driver (not sure which but definitely don't have one that large). I have "Shimano BR-M505 hydraulic disc brake, dual piston, 160mm rotor" 's btw... (copying directly from the website...)
 

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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

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Yep dual pistons, and judging by the wear of the pads, IMO, you may have a clogged up/seized piston.

If you have a large flat bladed screwdriver, insert between the stiff side and the rotor. Either twist or lever the blade of the driver to push the offending piston in, then pull the lever several times. Repeat several times, this may free it up if its not too badly clogged or minimal crystallising.
 
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Yep dual pistons, and judging by the wear of the pads, IMO, you may have a clogged up/seized piston.

If you have a large flat bladed screwdriver, insert between the stiff side and the rotor. Either twist or lever the blade of the driver to push the offending piston in, then pull the lever several times. Repeat several times, this may free it up if its not too badly clogged or minimal crystallising.
sounds feasible. I did have to lever the inside piston back into place in order to be able to get the rear wheel back on, but reading the pdf this is normal on these brakes when there is pad wear. not fancying pulling the bike apart in the snow at the moment (still snowing lightly here) so will do so tomorrow afternoon when i can hopefully throw the dog out and have some space indoors where it might be slightly warmer...:smile:
 
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Poor dog! :cold:

nowt poor about this dog, trust me... 2nd photo is a normal sized front ortlieb pannier and that is a normal sized doorway and a large sizeds 2 seater sofa!
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nowt poor about this dog, trust me... 2nd photo is a normal sized front ortlieb pannier and that is a normal sized doorway and a large sizeds 2 seater sofa!
I don't know what you're complaining about - there's tons of room there for an upturned bike. You could even share the dogs blanket to keep the chill from the floor. In that photo he's left you a space already!! ^_^
 
Never had a push bike with disc brakes, but worked on a lot of car and motorbike ones. I dont know if the calipers have dust seals? It is normally these that get crap behind them and sieze the pistons. How do you know the disc is not warped?
 
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Never had a push bike with disc brakes, but worked on a lot of car and motorbike ones. I dont know if the calipers have dust seals? It is normally these that get crap behind them and sieze the pistons. How do you know the disc is not warped?
using the same method I retrue a wheel - watching it spin against a set point and seeing no wobble at all. (also have had a bike with disc brakes in the past so have a little experience of them - or at least experience of neglecting them :whistle:)
but seriously it is fine and I can see an issue with one of the pistons which ties in with the wear pattern on the pads...
 
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Right - bike has gone into the mtb shop after a play with it & the brakes this afternoon - I changed matters, not necessarily for the better nor worse, just changed....:rolleyes:

1 piston is clearly sticking/stuck on and the system now needs bleeding as well; didn't beforehand, does now :whistle: (which I can't do without purchasing a kit), so decided for the sake of £15 including parts/oil etc I would let the local mountain bike shop (tis all they do mtbs) deal with it for me.:sad:.

Now feeling lost without my mtb to play with, even though I tend to use the road bike more during the week.:cry:
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

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FYI for the future, to bleed the brakes....take the lid off, top up, pump it a few times, top up, cable tie the lever as far back as you can and leave over night.....viola bleeded brakes.
 
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FYI for the future, to bleed the brakes....take the lid off, top up, pump it a few times, top up, cable tie the lever as far back as you can and leave over night.....viola bleeded brakes.
thanks - I assumed I would need some spare (suitable) mineral oil and I suspect that the stuff I have for my Rohloff hub is probably not the correct stuff... When I looked into the resevoir it was totally full and actually overflowing. I did try to get the air out, but failed - I had hoped that numerous movements of the lever would help but it did not - I think there is simply too much air in the system which could mean the fluid levels were low anyhow. now have oil on carpet and down hands, frame and levers... (did a very good job of going a long way for so very little oil). I need the bike operational for next weekend and then am on a mtb skills course the following weekend so it was a case of "before I break it..." no pun intended.
 
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