cyclist deaths

[gavroche]

The Department of Transport figures for 2010 show that there is an increase of 7% of cyclist deaths on Britain's roads from 2009. 111 cyclists were killed in 2010, it may not sound much but it is a tragedy for 111 families.
Traffic accidents dropped by 16% over 2009, although 1857 people were killed in traffic accidents.
22660 people were killed or seriously injured on UK roads in 2010, an 8% drop from 2009.
Road deaths have hit their lowest levels since records began in 1926.
Motorbikes account for 20% of deaths on UK roads.
So if you are a cyclist and a biker, be careful out there!
Two wheels give you no protection against anything on the road.

 

[abo]

Anyone know what the figures are for cyclist numbers increasing/decreasing over the same period? It'd be interesting to see if there is a correlation.

 

[BSRU]

Anyone know what the figures are for cyclist numbers increasing/decreasing over the same period? It'd be interesting to see if there is a correlation.

According to Jon Snow's report there has been a 1.5% increase in "cyclists", I do not know if they mean journeys or mileage or actual cyclists. He was highlighting the fact that the percentage increase in cyclists deaths was the opposite to other other road users.

 

[400bhp]

If the figs quoted are correct.

It's one year of numbers

It's an extra 7 cyclists deaths.

Lets not get carried away.

 

[byegad]

While any death is to be regretted.

This would be a better figure if cycle miles had gone up by more than 7%. I suspect this is true probably caused by the high price of fuel.

It would be worse news if cycling went up by less than 7% or went down.

 

[Banjo]

Any accidental death is a tragedy but if the figures for cyclist deaths were offset by the fact that cyclists are fitter than the average person and less l.ikely to suffer heart disease/diabetes etc etc then the overall risk factor is even smaller.

 

[numbnuts]

According to Jon Snow's report there has been a 1.5% increase in "cyclists", I do not know if they mean journeys or mileage or actual cyclists. He was highlighting the fact that the percentage increase in cyclists deaths was the opposite to other other road users.

I wonder if the 1.5% increase is “bikes sold” and then stuck in the shed for the rest of the year

 

[Banjo]

I wonder if the 1.5% increase is “bikes sold” and then stuck in the shed for the rest of the year

Some will be but I suspect a lot of bikes have been taken out of sheds ,dusted off and put back into use as well.

The evidence of my own eyes tells me that where I live there are many more cyclists than a few years back ,both commuting in the rush hour and enjoying the country lanes.

 

[davefb]

grumble , one years 'data' does not make a trend....

still 111 too many though ( as is case with all 'accidents' obv)

 

[2Loose]

If the figs quoted are correct.

It's one year of numbers

It's an extra 7 cyclists deaths.

Lets not get carried away.

That is the clearest, non sensationalist way to deal with this info.

+1.

Another way would be to suggest that building works for the Olympics has caused an abnormal amount of cyclist deaths in recent times.

 

[Red Light]

Basic statistics. If the number of deaths last year was N, any number of deaths this year within N ± √N is considered within normal statistical fluctuations*. For last years 104 deaths that means anything below 114 is most likely down to random year to year variations not a trend.


* i.e even if nothing changed between the two years you would not expect to get exactly 104 deaths again because each death is a random occurrence.

 

[abo]

I wonder if the 1.5% increase is “bikes sold” and then stuck in the shed for the rest of the year

That won't take into account the purchase of used bikes either. A new cyclist buying someone's second bike, say, will result in an additional bike on the road.

It also won't take into account someone buying their n+1; you can only ride one bike at a time

 

[JonnyBlade]

The Department of Transport figures for 2010 show that there is an increase of 7% of cyclist deaths on Britain's roads from 2009. 111 cyclists were killed in 2010, it may not sound much but it is a tragedy for 111 families.
Traffic accidents dropped by 16% over 2009, although 1857 people were killed in traffic accidents.
22660 people were killed or seriously injured on UK roads in 2010, an 8% drop from 2009.
Road deaths have hit their lowest levels since records began in 1926.
Motorbikes account for 20% of deaths on UK roads.
So if you are a cyclist and a biker, be careful out there!
Two wheels give you no protection against anything on the road.

More people drive and more people cycle than ever before. Probability says that the risk of an accident is going to increase ........... +1 Be careful out there

 

[gavroche]

While any death is to be regretted.

This would be a better figure if cycle miles had gone up by more than 7%. I suspect this is true probably caused by the high price of fuel.

It would be worse news if cycling went up by less than 7% or went down.

UK drivers bought one billion fewer litres of fuel in the first 3 months of 2011 compared to the same period in 2008.
There is a 15% drop in petrol and 6% in diesel sales due to high fuel costs.
As a result,the Treasury has lost £637m in tax revenue. Shame!
The report doesn't say if more people have turned to cycling to offset the cost of motoring.

 

[davefb]

UK drivers bought one billion fewer litres of fuel in the first 3 months of 2011 compared to the same period in 2008.
There is a 15% drop in petrol and 6% in diesel sales due to high fuel costs.
As a result,the Treasury has lost £637m in tax revenue. Shame!
The report doesn't say if more people have turned to cycling to offset the cost of motoring.

no.. no it hasnt

everyone bought cigs instead



its a stupid statement, because the money will go into the economy somewhere..

let alone the fact between 2008 and 2011 theres less traffic due to the recession.... so they really need to take that out.... is it less petrol for the same miles ? we dont know do we..

pretty staggering numbers though... seem to recall that one of the benefits of the american 'subsidised new cars' was that people were getting smaller vehicles to replace big ones , which was almost paying for the whole setup due to the benefits of importing less petrol to the us economy....