Cortisone Injection - Shoulder

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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South Manchester
OK

Anyone had one, and does it hurt ? :biggrin: My bro-in-law had one recently...pretty painful.

Looks like that's on the cards for me in a week or so - back to the Specialist, but the PI report recommends it also first, see how it goes, and then surgery. As it's been over 12 months since the accident, I can't see it doing much good, but must follow due process..... I hate hospitals.
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
my doctor said as i walked in. "are you sure you want to do this? it is the most painful thing you can have done whilst awake" he was not wrong. i had an elbow one. it is horrible and made me feel unwell for a week. i'm about 90% back to normal and have some physio on tuesday. be aware tho, it is only a painkiller and inflammation reducer, if you don't build up your strength slowly you can rupture the joint. apparently according to googling most people assume they are back to normal then completely **** themselves up. my doc said that he only did 3 as a max then it's surgery after that, i hope the physio sorts it out.
 

longers

Legendary Member
I had a couple years ago in a shoulder and despite being told it would hurt they didn't really. Your mileage may vary. Maybe they did them wrong? :biggrin:
 
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fossyant

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My shoulder is stable, hence not really wanting it messed with. It's the clunking, which is as a result of impinged tendons.... The pain is OK, I can live with that, so I don't really see the need. The surgery could balls it up anyway, so I'm after a few answers. Physio sorted the pain issues, up until July, the last time I went to the hospital I had no pain as was having twice weekly sessions, but stopped after the visit. Pain has come back, but there is only so much money you can keep laying out....
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
physio should be free on nhs shouldn't it? mine is private and is being paid for by the other party insurers. the acupuncture the physio does works brilliantly. my injection was right into the elbow joint. they have to inject it directly into the inflammation hence the most painful part of the joint ergo massive pain. unless it's different in the shoulder i don't know. as a pain killer it is only temporary 3 months i think the doc said. it's a bit dodgy as well can do damage elsewhere. just do a google. like i said it has helped me but i won't have anymore. if it doesn't reduce my inflammation first time then there is no point of any more.hth
 
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fossyant

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Not had physio on the NHS, paid for it, then so far have got half back via the third party's insurers, but they've owed me £1k since last July.....
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
oh dear? mine was organised by my solicitor and a company called medicare? my first appointment was within a few days and i've had 12 sessions. i got the injection thru nhs as i was not happy about the rate of recovery. i rang my solicitor and he has arranged some more starting tuesday. but the other party have already admitted liability. have yours?
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
It's funny that this should come up now because I spent much of yesterday checking out a shoulder rehab product that I'm thinking of promoting. I bought it a couple of years ago when I buggered my shoulder up.

The author is a very good American physiotherapist (or physical therapist as they call themselves over there).

He says that injections can vary in effectiveness from very little improvement to being a big help. Sometimes they give you enough relief that you can carry out rehab exercises which would otherwise be too painful. He also says that you should have a maxiumum of 3 because the cortisone can start to degrade the tissues it is injected into.

His view is that surgery should only be considered after severe trauma or once rehab has been given a good length of time to take effect but isn't improving matters and if the current condition of the shoulder isn't acceptable to you.

Multiple surgeries rapidly reduce in effectiveness because of the build-up of scar tissue so if you are going to have surgery, you really want it to be effective first time.

He also quoted the stats for keyhole surgery and open surgery. The results were very much better for the keyhole surgery but the surgeon has to be much more skilled to perform it properly.

It's well worth a read. There's a 105 minute MP3 file to accompany a powerpoint demonstration which explains the anatomy of the shoulder and what goes wrong it. Actually, having watched/listened to that I'm amazed at how well shoulders normally work and that they don't go wrong more often!

A complete illustrated rehab program is provided, together with some video files showing the exercises being performed.

If you are interested, you can buy it through this web page ->

http://www.rotatorcufftraining.com/

(Don't worry folks - that isn't my affiliate link, it is direct to the author's sales page and I won't make a penny from it. Don't let his sales pitch put you off, he knows his stuff. The cost would be about £26 + VAT)

Oh, and I should add that my brother-in-law has had several cortisone injections in a painful shoulder over the past few years. It gives him temporary relief but then he ends up aggravating the injury again.

It makes perfect sense to me to give your shoulder the best chance of recovery by doing a graduated programme of rehab exercises.

And the bad news is that no matter what you have done, your shoulder will probably never be quite as good as it was before the injury. Hopefully it will be good enough.

In my case, it was so bad that I couldn't even lift my arm over my guitar. 2.5 years later it aches a bit and it isn't as strong as it was, but I can put up with the level of discomfort that I now have.
 

mangaman

Guest
longers said:
I had a couple years ago in a shoulder and despite being told it would hurt they didn't really. Your mileage may vary. Maybe they did them wrong? :tongue:

I agree - pretty painless I'd say

The least painful joint to have injected if you had a choice!

(Of course make sure the injector isn't a 1st year medical student)
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Years ago I had a cortisone injection into the attachment point of a foot tendon. Excruciatingly painful! Not because I'm a wuss - a couple of years before that I thought for several days that I had sprained my ankle, when I had actually given it a Potts Fracture.

My steroid injection relieved the inflammation but had absolutely no effect on the underlying problem. In the end I went to a physio, who sorted it out permanently in three weeks. I remember being disappointed that neither my GP nor the specialist had any suggestions apart from drugs or surgery; but this was 30 years ago, when they were still Gods in White Coats and many GPs saw sports physiotherapy as only one up from burning chicken feathers.
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Come to think of it, fossyant, I have also had a cortisone injection in the shoulder. I had forgotten about it because I was expecting it to be as painful as the one in my foot, but it didn't hurt at all.
 
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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
ASC1951 said:
Come to think of it, fossyant, I have also had a cortisone injection in the shoulder. I had forgotten about it because I was expecting it to be as painful as the one in my foot, but it didn't hurt at all.

Phew. Might be good for the Cheshire Cat then.... might just funk my shoulder right up charging up Mow Cop and Wincle thinking now't hurts...;)
 
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