Cluster Headaches

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Mo1959

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Anyone else suffer with Cluster Headaches?

My god, they might not kill you, but it doesn't feel that way when the pain is turned up to eleven.

Just looking for common experiences, coping strategies, and empathy.

I am a headache sufferer varying from mild to migraine. My worst seems to be after strenuous exercise so I presume what’s called an exertion headache. Got one this morning after a 6.5 mile sweaty run this morning.

My headaches have been slightly less severe and less often since giving up caffeine.

I envy these people that say they hardly ever get headaches.
 

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That sounds horrible, @Alien8

Cutting out alcohol and caffeine, and getting into a regular sleep pattern helped with the occasional headaches I had.

Does your GP have any thoughts?
 

Sharky

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I had severe headaches, when I was about 40-43. Saw a specialist (referred by GP) and said could be stress (both parents died in '93 and had been made redundent in '90 or it could be diet and I should modify diet and note causes of headaches.

I noticed that certain sugary foods, particularly Jam Do-nuts triggered headaches! Also noticed that alcoholic drinks triggered headaches and by that it only took one mouthful to trigger a headache.

So in '93 or so, become completely tea total. The alcohol-free lagers were OK. After many years, was able to tolerate certain french beers and now still mostly tea total, with the occasional alcholic drink, but never touch wine. Have been free of severe headaches for many years, but do get occasional ones, but much milder.

A colleague at work said that he put his feet in a bowl of cold water. This changed the blood flow in his body and somehow alleviated the pain in the head.

Best wishes
 

Mo1959

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Also noticed that alcoholic drinks triggered headaches and by that it only took one mouthful to trigger a headache.

This was something I noticed too. Not a hangover as it happened too quickly after even one drink.

I don’t touch alcohol now either.

Sometimes wonder if it’s genetic to some extent as mum was bothered with headaches too.
 

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This was something I noticed too. Not a hangover as it happened too quickly after even one drink.

I don’t touch alcohol now either.

Sometimes wonder if it’s genetic to some extent as mum was bothered with headaches too.

Same for me and my sons. One alcoholic drink and we feel headachy and rough within five minutes.

We've just discovered that the three of us also have a bad reaction to something used during surgery.

Because its the three of us I think it must be genetic.
 
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Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
I get visual migraines plus occasional ocular. Used to be very occasional after strenuous exercise. Became more common in my 40's. Found out caffeine was a trigger. Also after getting a dog the frequency massively declined, so pretty sure stress was/is a factor.
 

SpokeyDokey

67, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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The trouble with asking for cluster headache help is that you get all sorts of well-meaning advice from migraine sufferers - no disrespect to them intended.

The two conditions are like chalk & cheese. In terms of pain, clusters are like migraines on steroids. They are one of the most painful conditions known to medical science.

Mrs SD is a long-time sufferer.

They are diagnosed by a Neurologist, in our experience, GP's know virtually nothing about them and it took considerable internet sleuthing to get ours to even acknowledge their existence!

The condition occurs due to abnormal activity in the hypothalamus portion of the brain. The condition is often genetic. Mrs SD's mother was a sufferer as is her eldest son.

The key clue to headaches being cluster vs migraine is time! Cluster sufferers will suffer episodes on a regular time basis eg every Spring, Autumn etc, once per month on a set number of days. Every day at a certain time etc. Very strange linkage to internal biological clock.

Mrs SD's occur every 18 months for a period of around 2-3 weeks, every day at 2am in the morning. She considers herself very lucky not to have them more frequently.

Other observable symptoms are a temporarily drooping (normally right-sided) eye plus manic back & forward pacing around the house etc. Occasionally, banging her head on the floor, and on the stone patio out back, in a desperate attempt to ease the pain has been known. This is a common action undertaken by some sufferers - it is illogical and the reason why they do so is unknown. Typically, a vicious pain on the right side of the head in the neck, over the ear and into the back of the right eye will be experienced.

Some sufferers, not Mrs SD, have been known to try to access the painful area via the eye orbit in an attempt to relieve the pain - far too gruesome to discuss here. They are also called suicide headaches. An outcome in the case of some badly affected individuals.

Treatments include breathing cylinder-fed oxygen & electrode pain-blocking implants for those suffering virtually continuous episodes. Lithium based drugs are also used - these are 'heavy duty' medications with some horrible side effects.

Mrs SD uses Sumatriptan (also used for migraines) to good effect. Tablet form is a waste of time, far too slow to act and of limited benefit. Nasal spray is better, and useful if you are awake and feel an attack coming on - kills pain in around 5 minutes. Self-injection 'pens' are very fast, handy when you awake to an attack - kills pain in around 2 minutes. Both the latter leave the victim feeling groggy, spaced out and completely 'crashed'. They also require the ingestion of anti-nausea drugs to combat the inevitable side-effect.

Expect a fight with a GP to obtain the 'pens'. When last checked some years ago they were around £70 each!

@Alien8 - good luck getting yours under control. A neuro referral and formal diagnosis is a good starting point.
 
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Alien8

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Hello!
Thanks for all your responses and helpful advice/info.
Shortly after my original post I got readmitted to Addenbrooke's and escaped only late last night.
I was first admitted on the 19th with crushing head pain (a half-closed eyelid being the only other symptom).
After a couple of days, and a reduction in the pain, they decided it was a Cluster Headaches and sent me home with a prescription for Sumatriptan spray.
But the next day it all flared up again with added huge swelling of the eyelid.
After some CT scans and whatnot they are saying it's periorbital/orbital cellulitis plus some severe, and apparently historic, sinus issues.
They had to do a small op to make a hole through from the nostril to eye socket to allow the build-up to drain.
So now I'm back home with antibiotics, sinus rinse, paracetamol, and a bottle of morphine to swig.
Just a little bit of double vision to make things awkward.
At least the wife hasn't (yet) blamed it on cycling!
 

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