I'd agree, if its set up nicely (like most bikes) its about the rider not the bike, bradley wiggins could out run be on a cheap apollo bike than me on his pinarello dogma any day!We rode from London to John O'Groats in the company of a delightful young man on a Carrera. It coped without batting an eyelid, which is more than can be said of some of the more expensive mounts. What more needs be said?
Agree'd on apollo my phaze was TERRIBLE!They are a good quality lower end set of bikes. It's the Apollo bikes you need to watch.
Very impressed with both my kids bikes. The vengeance is good enough for Red and Black runs, stops on a sixpence and has Sram gears.