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[twobiker]

The town where I live has a roundabout, the right lane says IND EST and right turn only, the left lane shows an arrow for straight on, why then do people get in the right hand lane and then go straight on, I had to get out and ask a couple of guys if they wanted to repeat what they had just shouted at me when they tried to push in on the other side, they did'nt repeat it by the way.

 

[400bhp]

Picture or it doesn't exist.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Has the roundabout always been that way.? Many drivers are creatures of habit and will ignore or have a scotoma to new signs and road markings. No excuse at all but a reason none the less.

 

[twobiker]

I cannot get pictures to work for me but if you go on Google Earth and put in Totnes Brutus Bridge you will see the roundabout in question, it is a traffic bottleneck and a lot of drivers try to push in to gain a few spaces.

 

[400bhp]

Here ?

 

[twobiker]

Here ?

Yes thats it.

 

[twobiker]

Yes thats it.

On the otherside of the R/about it is one lane towards the garage.

 

[twobiker]

[QUOTE 1528137"]
Are the markings advisory?
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No, I don't think so ,most sensible people seem to keep in the left lane but some just drive up the outside and then go straight over, a bit like those who tear up the outside on motorways when it says the carriageway is narrowing and then try to push in/" filter" at the last moment.

 

[twobiker]

[QUOTE 1528139"]
Ah, now your second group have a point. Lane merges should always zip at the front. We have an obscure and unnecessary habit of merging way too early. This stretches out the queue, causes congestion and riles other drivers when some correctly use the whole of the road.
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And of course nobody gets riled when you are patiently in a queue and some gonk goes blasting up the outside and just pulls over making someone give way to avoid a collision,

 

[MissTillyFlop]

The town where I live has a roundabout, the right lane says IND EST and right turn only, the left lane shows an arrow for straight on, why then do people get in the right hand lane and then go straight on, I had to get out and ask a couple of guys if they wanted to repeat what they had just shouted at me when they tried to push in on the other side, they did'nt repeat it by the way.

Because they are *$@%s!

 

[twobiker]

[QUOTE 1528142"]
Pushing in at the front is wrong, but this is only done because people won't let them in. And they're wrong to do this. Traffic should merge at the front. The proper situation is to have two lines of traffic zipping at the front.
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Page 167 of the H/C says you should not overtake where you may come into conflict with other drivers example where the road narrows ?.

 

[twobiker]

[QUOTE 1528144"]
That doesn't apply here. You photowjd filter at the front, before the road narrows. The only problem is caused by nutters bunching up to prevent filtering.

The big problem for drivers wanting to do things correctly is what to do when reaching a 300m queue in one lane with an empty lane alongside. Join the queue of the blissfully ignorant and exacerbate the problem, or drive to the front and suffer the wrath of Mr Angry? Once the problem has been started it's very difficult to correct.
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[Mad at urage]

It's amazing what people don't know about the Highway Code.

"134

You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily. Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe and appropriate when vehicles are travelling at a very low speed, e.g. when approaching road works or a road traffic incident. It is not recommended at high speed."

"As directed" means just that. When the planners put up a notice saying "Lane closed in 800 metres" they don't mean "Lane closed now". If they wanted to close the lane 800 metres nearer the previous junction they would have done so.

You should not change lanes unnecessarily, but proceed to the closed lane at an appropriate speed, merging in turn where it is safe.

It isn't a queue, it's a lane closure!

Edit: but no, it doesn't apply here. However, some drivers may be unfamiliar with the layout and (without other signs) those in the road may be obscured by vehicles stopped on them. Even if they see the road-surface signs, they are then stuck in the RH lane and need to move left. Often other drivers won't let you do so, resulting in them reaching the roundabout in the wrong lane. In that case, I'd go round again, provided I had been able to see the signs.

 

[twobiker]

It's amazing what people don't know about the Highway Code.

"134

You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily. Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe and appropriate when vehicles are travelling at a very low speed, e.g. when approaching road works or a road traffic incident. It is not recommended at high speed."

"As directed" means just that. When the planners put up a notice saying "Lane closed in 800 metres" they don't mean "Lane closed now". If they wanted to close the lane 800 metres nearer the previous junction they would have done so.

You should not change lanes unnecessarily, but proceed to the closed lane at an appropriate speed, merging in turn where it is safe.

It isn't a queue, it's a lane closure!

Edit: but no, it doesn't apply here. However, some drivers may be unfamiliar with the layout and (without other signs) those in the road may be obscured by vehicles stopped on them. Even if they see the road-surface signs, they are then stuck in the RH lane and need to move left. Often other drivers won't let you do so, resulting in them reaching the roundabout in the wrong lane. In that case, I'd go round again, provided I had been able to see the signs.

The part about it is not recommended at high speed is rather contradictory for motorways is'nt it ?.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

It's because many believe that roundabouts are an overtaking mechanism.