Cannondale confusion...

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nimchimpsky82

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One of the bikes I've been looking at is the CAAD9 -- nice spec, good reputation, and perfectly within budget. But one of the bike shops I visited yesterday is doing a rather sweet deal on the SIX (with full 105 set).

I was under the impression that SIXes were always full carbon, but the guy in the store said that the frame on this one is aluminium, but the forks are carbon. I can't seem to find this model on the Cannondale website but I've checked the 2009 brochure, and indeed there it is, on p.57. (Edit: found it on the UK website now: http://gb.cannondale.com/bikes/09/ce/six.html) In the brochure the distinction is made between SIX (which I've now worked out has an aluminium frame) and SIX Carbon (which, well, the name kinda says it all :smile:). In the tables at the end of the folder the SIX is referred to as SIX Alloy Carbon.

Now the really odd thing is that the geometry of SIX (Alloy Carbon) frame is different from that of the CAAD9, and different from the SIX Carbon as well :wacko:. The largest size is only a 61cm, as against 63 for the CAAD9 and SIX Carbon. This may or may not be relevant to me, given my 6'6" bulk. Anyway, the salesperson was also confused by this, and he's actually going to ring Cannondale tomorrow to make sure this information is correct.

Would anyone on here happen to know whether it is, and if so, what the reasons for it are?

The bike looked great to me, and according to the salesperson the carbon forks give it a slightly smoother ride than the CAAD9. If anyone here has any experience with it, opinions will be welcome as well :becool::becool:
 

MajorMantra

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I'm not sure about the specific models, but there's at least one Cannondale (the Six 13) that has a frame made of both aluminium and carbon. IIRC it had a carbon TT and DT and the rest was aluminium.

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RedBike

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it varies between models/ years but most of the front triangle of my six13 is carbon. The top tube, seat tube and down tube are but the head tube isn't. The rear triangle is aluminium. This is the opposite way around to virtually every other aluminium/carbon bike frame out there. The reason being is the frame is made for racing NOT for comfort. The carbon is there to reduce weight increase the stiffness.

I used to own a Caad9 frame and I found it was MORE comfortable to ride than the six13.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD2z8ShXxEc
 
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nimchimpsky82

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Tx a lot both :evil: The frame on the SIX must indeed be the 13 then. RedBike, tx for your point about the relative comfort of the two frames. It's a bit confusing of course to hear the opposite of what the salesperson said, but then he was also wrong about the frame, saying it was all aluminium. Unless I hear any other views I'm tempted to order the CAAD9 in the largest size for a test ride now.
 
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nimchimpsky82

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RedBike said:
it varies between models/ years but most of the front triangle of my six13 is carbon. The top tube, seat tube and down tube are but the head tube isn't. The rear triangle is aluminium. This is the opposite way around to virtually every other aluminium/carbon bike frame out there. The reason being is the frame is made for racing NOT for comfort. The carbon is there to reduce weight increase the stiffness.

I used to own a Caad9 frame and I found it was MORE comfortable to ride than the six13.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD2z8ShXxEc


Hmm, having had a close look at the Cannondale GB website, it seems that the salesman was right after all: "Get the best of both worlds aboard a Six. More than a quarter-century of optimized tube shaping goes into the aluminum front triangle, while the rear stays and dropouts are borrowed from its big brothers in the Elite road bike line." (http://www.pictoncycles.co.uk/road-.../product_info.php/cPath/6_104/products_id/745)

I guess you were correct, Redbike, when you pointed out that they may change things around from one year to the next. In this case I guess the SIX deserves a test ride anyway, as it may be smoother than the one you describe.

Thumbs up to your blog btw!
 
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