Can anyone identify this bike?

[User42423]

Hi Folk.

I recently bought this unknown gents sports bike. I bought it from the son the original owner, (apparently, he was a CTC man). Anyone, at some stage during it's life, it has lost it's original head badge (see image). It is a very plain lugged machine, with normal fittings for the era. The Sturmey hub is dated for 75, but the Williams chain-set is dated for 1952. It has clearly lead a hard life!!.
The most distinguishing feature (for me) is the location of the frame number. Unusually, it is stamped on the R.H.S front lower head lug.

The seat tube carries three transfers. 1) CTC, 2) YHA, & 3) Allins. (please note, the Allins is a 'renovated by' transfer, & not built by).

 

[biggs682]

@User42423 that looks great and just needs a wipe down and mechanical overhaul and away it goes again , no idea re who and what

but very nice find

 

[Deleted member 35268]

Wow, that's both a mess and a great great challenge. Love it.

 

[raleighnut]

For gods sake do not repaint it, that would be a crime.
New chain, tyres and an inner cable or 2 (Maybe brake blocks as well) and jobs a good un.
Great bike BTW

 

[lukAs98]

Hi @User42423. Can you upload more photos of the whole lugs so I can see the small bit of pattern you can just about see in the photo, a photo of where the headbadge once was to see if any sort of shape can be made out, the tops of the forks and finally, can you measure in inches from centre crank to top of the seat post?

 

[Drago]

It's been "refurbished", which means the paint probably isn't original. A lot of the components loom much later. In interesting machine, but don't get a sniffy about repainting or replacing parts wholesale if you want to as that's the proverbial Triggers broom, with precious little to actually "preserve".

 

[User42423]

Unfortunately, I only have this 'other' image. I will drag the machine out tomorrow, and do some more pics.

 

[stevevw]

Could be a New Hudson.

 

[wisdom]

Could be wrong but is one of the badges a youth hostel association badge

 

[stevevw]

A New Hudson for sale on eBay looks similar.

 

[raleighnut]

Could be wrong but is one of the badges a youth hostel association badge

Yep, and they are pretty rare. Its obviously the bike of a 1950s tourer/hosteller and is certainly a bike I would spend time looking at, would have talked to the old fella as well.
Much more interesting than a Crackbon thing with remote control gears for me.

 

[User42423]

Could be a New Hudson.

It is unlikely to be a New Hudson. I think they had stopped production by 1945.

 

[stevevw]

Are the lugs not Brampton fishtail first shown in the 1929 catalogue also seen them in the 1939 Brown Brothers catalogue?