campagnolo centaur shifter parts

[bianchi1]

Ive got an issue with my right hand shifter not holding the gears on the down shift. One click with the thumb and the chain skips all the way down the block.

After checking cables, cassette, rear mech etc, I replaced the shifters for new (££££!!) and back to seamless shifting.

The problem is i now have an expensive carbon paperweight which is calling out to be tinkered with. Some places look like they will do a full internal replacement, but that may be upwards of 60 quid, and frankly I would like to have a go myself. I have found the part code I am after (Ec-Ce110 Spares 09 10S Right Ergopower Ratcheting Kit Centaur) but am at a loss as to where to buy one from in the UK. Google searches end up being in German or Dutch.

Anyone on here know where campy parts are best purchased from?

 

[Graeme_FK]

Hi Bianchi1, chances are, if that is the symptom, those are not the internal parts that you need.

This symptom doesn't happen as a result of a parts failure in UltraShift levers - it's really, really, really uncommon in that version of the lever and is basically a bolt tightness issue. We've seen it maybe twice in 6 years as the main Campagnolo SC.

More likely you have PowerShift levers which had a problem where some combinations of lubricant oils could soften some of the plastic parts inside, causing exactly this symptom.

To check which lever you have:
On the thumb lever, is it all made of plastic and did it when new shift just one gear per press? If so, it's PowerShift.
If it did multiple gears per press and is a plastic pad held on a metal part and you can see, when you look at the lever sideways on from the left side, a metal ratchet directly below the thumb lever, then you have an UltraShift.

If you have PowerShift, the only reliable fix is a whole new lever body, EC-CE300.

If you do have Ultrashift, this can have the internal that you note replaced (now discontinued by Campag as a spare but we have a few left in stock at £35.50 plus P and P) but it's likely not necessary - more likely is that the 2.5 mm allen key-fitting bolt that holds the internals together is loose. As I say, this is extremely rare, but it can happen. This is the bolt whose head is facing you if you look at the lever from the back. If this is so, take it out, clean it and put some Loctite-type blue threadlocker on it and refit - it needs to be tightened to around 3.5 nm, so not super tight - the clue is in the length of the allen key and the size of the socket in the bolt!

We would advise against stripping the lever yourself - it's a basically simple operation, but there are a couple of tricks in reassembling everything & if you don't know them, you are in for a very frustrating time - there is also a spring that you really don't want to remove (it's awkward to get back in) and there are two very small springs and balls in the index clutch which if you loose (easily done) we can't get spares for. Last, depending on the age of the lever, it may have been custom-shimmed at the factory and you have to get those shims right to get reliable shifting - with a new internals kit those shims may need swapping or the sequence re-arranging.

HTH
Graeme
Velotech Cycling Ltd
Campagnolo Main UK SC

 

[bianchi1]

Hi Graeme,

Thanks your your expert help. This is my shifter:

I did check the bottom bolt, but even a slight pull on the cable caused the shifter to slip.

If the job is to complex for an un trained mortal, do velotech accept service jobs and what would be the approximate price? (Feel free to pm me if you don't wish to discuss costs on an open forum)

My other thought would be to buy a whole replacement unit. Is it possible to buy single units or do they always come in a pair. I already have a brand new left unit from my replacements sat in a box. I could always sell the faulty one on ebay as for parts.

Thanks again for your advice. It's clear from your previous posts you know what you are on about.

 

[Graeme_FK]

Hi Graeme,

Thanks your your expert help. This is my shifter: View attachment 59831

I did check the bottom bolt, but even a slight pull on the cable caused the shifter to slip.

If the job is to complex for an un trained mortal, do velotech accept service jobs and what would be the approximate price? (Feel free to pm me if you don't wish to discuss costs on an open forum)

My other thought would be to buy a whole replacement unit. Is it possible to buy single units or do they always come in a pair. I already have a brand new left unit from my replacements sat in a box. I could always sell the faulty one on ebay as for parts.

Thanks again for your advice. It's clear from your previous posts you know what you are on about.

No problem :-)

This is a PowerShift shifter, so it's a good thing you didn't invest in EC-CE110 - not the kit you need at all!

I didn't want to convey the idea that servicing UltraShift is some kind of mission impossible unsuited to ordinary mortals, BTW - it certainly isn't - but like most things, there is *more to it* than perhaps immediately meets the eye.

So, anyway, the fix for your lever is a new body complete - i.e. everything except the brake lever & it's pivot pin, the clip and the rubber hood. We have some of these units (EC-CE300) which are £68.00 plus P and P apiece - they have revised materials in the internal so that you won't get the problem again.

If your levers are less than 3 years old and you have had them from new, and you have a receipt for either the levers or for the bike complete, we can swap the lever body for you under the warranty - the only cost to you then is the carriage in each direction.

For info (and for anyone else tripping over this thread), yes, we can and do accept service jobs both from the public and from the trade (which is where most of our focus lays) on any Campagnolo part, current or legacy. As an example, to strip and rebuild a lever is £25.00 inc VAT at present, plus parts.

We hold good stocks of smaller and harder-to-find spares and as the Main Factory-Appointed SC for the UK we are continuously updated at the factory - I go over with my colleagues here 5 or 6 times a year to meet with our opposite numbers at the factory and from other countries' main SCs, to receive training and advice and to share best practice.

I will be honest and tell you we are not the cheapest source of spares around but, to blow our own trumpet, we do back it up by making sure we know what we are doing ... and if we don't, finding out from the factory PDQ!

 

[bianchi1]

Thanks Again @Graeme_FK. Very useful information. Sadly my levers are out of warranty

Im probably going to go down the route of buying another complete pair. As they are becoming overtaken by all the 11 speed stuff, various places have good deals. Around £110 for the pair.

Buy the time ive factored new cables, postage, parts there's not much in it, especially if i can get a few quid for the broken one on e-bay....and I still end up with a spare left hand unit!

Thanks again for your help, and Ive made a note of your company should I ever need any campag work doing.