Bob Jackson Racing Bike

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CallumWright

Regular
Hi everyone, I've inherited this bike from my cousin who had it custom made for him. I've replaced the tyres with new continental 700c x 23c tyres, original tyres were 700c x 18.
If anyone can help me with it's worth or any details regarding it i'd be grateful.
Somewhere in the loft is a list of all the parts of the bike etc which i will add to this thread in the future.
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Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
Hi Callum, and :welcome:

Looks to be a very big frame - maybe more than 25"? (From bottom bracket to top of seat tube). Also appears to be designed for touring rather than racing, although belied by the 700c x 18 tyres, based on the mudguard eyelets on the forks, and even more obviously, the double eyelets on the rear dropouts (one for guards + one for pannier rack) and what appear to be fittings for pannier rack on the seatstays above the brake. Seat tube looks to be at a fairly laidback angle (~72 degrees?) while the headtube looks quite a bit steeper - quite an unusual combination. It'll be useful to check the Reynolds labels on the frame and forks to establish exactly what tubing is used, and probably worth noting the frame number (under the bottom bracket?) and asking Bob Jackson if they can help with further info.
Initial estimate of value - in the region of £150, although this could be revised when you post further info or more experienced forum members reply! If you're looking to sell, be aware that potential purchasers will probably be in the minority of the population with a height of 6' 2" and over.
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
A very nice bike, probably from the early eighties. You can get some more info from classicrendezvous.com about Bob Jackson, they are still producing bikes so you may well get some additional stuff from them. Only really suitable for someone with a 34"+ inseam (great for me!), looks like a 25" frame to me. As Poacher says a strange configuration with quite long rear stays so looks like your cousin had it made for a particular purpose, maybe Audax. I would say worth maybe £200+ as they are quite sort after and it looks to be in excellent condition.
 
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CallumWright

CallumWright

Regular
Today I managed to get a few close ups of any details regarding model numbers i could. I noticed that practically everything aside from the tyres and rims was made by Shimano.

Pedals Shimano 600
Crankarms just in the back of the photo are Shimano Dura - Ace Unsure of model number
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Front Caliper brake: Shimano Dura-Ace BR-7402 (identical rear caliper brake)
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Shimano rear quick release, (also present on front wheel).
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Shimano Dura-Ace 7401 Downtube Shifters
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Shimano Dura-Ace Rear Integrated 8515 Derailleur
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Mavic MA 40 Rims (Same for rear)
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Shimano Dura Ace HP-7400 Headset
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Front Fork: Made by the company Reynolds
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Frame Logo (present on down tube): Reynold 531 Renovated
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Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
The Shimano components being Dura Ace are placed at the top of their range making it a top of the line bike. Very nice indeed and would proably be worth nearer to £300. Does the bike fit you? If it does I should hang on to it.
 

Scilly Suffolk

Über Member
Dura Ace is Shimano's top group of components, as used by professionals. Dura Ace part numbers are 7xxx and the 740x series was available between 1985 and 1993. I'm not sure when Shimano introduced 8 speed, probably around '91/'92 which gives you a ballpark date for the bike.

The rear derailleur is actually marked "8 SIS" for "8 [speed] Shimano Integrated Shifting", for use with indexed down tube shifters. If you look elsewhere you'll find the actual model number: 7402.

The 600 series became Ultegra, which is Shimano's second best component group; possibly your Cousin kept the pedals from his previous bike: pedals are quite a personal thing and are often swapped between bikes.

Check the front derailleur, bottom bracket cups, the hubs, the seatpost and the stem: quite likely they are also DA.

"Renovated" on the Reynolds decal, indicates that the bike has been resprayed at some point, quite likely by Bob Jackson as it has proper BJ decals. Unfortunately, there is only one type of "renovated" decal, so we don't know exactly which flavour of 531 it's made from. Quite possibly it is 531ST (Super Touring) which is a more sturdy variant designed to cope with loaded touring; ST was sometimes also used on larger thoroughbred racers and track bikes, where thinner gauge 531 would flex.

If you check under the bottom bracket shell, you should find a serial number: being a custom build Bob Jackson may be able to give you more information on it, such as when it was built and which type of 531 was used.

As to value, the frameset (frame and forks stripped of all components, including headset and bottom bracket) would be worth in the region of £150 quite easily: Bob Jackson are highly regarded. It's true that being a larger frame your market is somewhat limited, but the reduced numbers of frames in such sizes means they are sought after.

I'm a Campagnolo man so couldn't really value the components, except to say that the complete groupset will easily be worth as much as the frame and forks.

For maximum return you should sell the frameset, wheelset and groupset separately; if the hubs are DA, include them with the groupset.

No doubt some will say that it's a shame to split the bike, which it is up to a point; however it's not a classic model (it's a custom build) and you'll appeal to more potential buyers than trying to sell the complete bike.

It's quite likely that if someone bought the bike whole, they would strip it and sell either the frameset or groupset anyway: cyclists are a finicky bunch and have their own very particular ideas as to what they want to ride.
 

Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
Hi again, Callum. As Cycleops and Scilly Suffolk have indicated, my initial estimate needs to be revised upwards in view of the Shimano DA components! Looking better all the time... are you tall enough to ride it (even with the saddle that low!)?
Would be useful if you took out the rear wheel and measured carefully across the inside of the dropouts - 126mm or 130 mm? Not vital, but would help in dating, and possibly valuing, the frame. I have an old Bob Jackson frame I bought second-hand more than 30 years ago - it's on its ninth life now after more than 80,000 miles, but still doing sterling service with a 130 mm hub despite being a 126mm frame, needing a bit of strength to spring the stays apart to get the wheel back in. Not recommended, but it works for me. Again, I'd advise contacting BJ with the frame number to find out what the tubing is - or did BJ refurbish a frame made by someone else??
Sorry if this is insensitive, but is your cousin still around to provide further info, or did the "inherited" in your OP (Original Post) indicate otherwise? If so, profuse apologies and sympathy from me.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
The bike is a nice one at that. Got a similar aged bike with full Dura Ace 7402. The parts fetch quite a few bob, but well worth keeping or selling. These components should shift like new if looked after.
 
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