Take a look at Endura Humvees and their ilk, pricey but by all accounts... worth it!
may get some 3/4 ones for my roadie
I find the ones with integrated liners more comforttable than the ones with removable liners - the removable liners just flap about because they are only held on with a few poppers - the fixed liners have a much more secure and well designed fit.
i've been using Altura shorts on my road bike for a few years, they've done me proud, good shorts.
however i've taken the leap and ordered some 3/4 length bib knickers as the shorts just arent that comfortable on long rides. its going to feel weird i know it
I hope you are female - knickers???
I love my Altura shorts
http://www.wiggle.co...campaign=Altura
They are super comfortable /loads of pockets and very long-lasting (IME)
They even double as normal shorts, as they look OK - and having hundreds of pockets is cool.