Are there any wide, firm saddles out there?

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Randy Butternubs

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Does anyone know of any very wide, very firm saddles that aren't leather?

I had a lot of trouble with saddles when I got back into cycling as an adult. I went through a bunch of them including the Charge Spoon and Brooks B17 with no luck. I finally bought a Spa Foss which is similar to the B67 (or 68?) - very wide and flat without springs - and it's a massive improvement.

I still get some perineal numbness though. I think it's because the construction of a leather saddle means the nose has to be angled up a fair bit for you not to slide off. Also I think a cutout would help which you don't generally get with leather. Also it would be nice for it to be waterproof.

I've been looking for a synthetic equivalent without luck; any wide saddle I can find in a shop is extremely soft and squishy. Does such a thing exist?
 

dim

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Brooks Cambium C19:

http://www.brooksengland.com/en_uk/saddles/cambium/cambium-c19-1.html

doe not have the cutout, but it's made of rubber and is 100% waterproof .... I have the C17 Carved (with the cutout) and it's super comfy ...It also ha a 10 year guarantee when you register it online and its waterproof
 

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It is aimed at females but might fit the bill in this case, The Charge Ladle is wider while still sensibly firm, possibly worth a look and very reasonably priced.

www.ribblecycles.co.uk/charge-ladle-ladies-saddle/#pid=1141

Only £18 for the white version but the more tasteful brown leather effect one is still a very easy on the wallet £25. My wife has one and finds it very comfortable with the nose set slightly lower than the rear. See HERE.

The main thing is, it might be comfortable and doesn't scream 'womans' saddle at you.
 
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Randy Butternubs

Randy Butternubs

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Thanks for the replies.

Brooks Cambium C19:

http://www.brooksengland.com/en_uk/saddles/cambium/cambium-c19-1.html

doe not have the cutout, but it's made of rubber and is 100% waterproof .... I have the C17 Carved (with the cutout) and it's super comfy ...It also ha a 10 year guarantee when you register it online and its waterproof

I didn't know they did a wide cambium; that's very interesting. The price is unfortunately an issue though without having tried one out. They are tempting though.

It is aimed at females but might fit the bill in this case, The Charge Ladle is wider while still sensibly firm, possibly worth a look and very reasonably priced.

www.ribblecycles.co.uk/charge-ladle-ladies-saddle/#pid=1141

Only £18 for the white version but the more tasteful brown leather effect one is still a very easy on the wallet £25. My wife has one and finds it very comfortable with the nose set slightly lower than the rear. See HERE.

The main thing is, it might be comfortable and doesn't scream 'womans' saddle at you.

I don't mind a ladies saddle as long as it isn't pink or anything :smile: I tried a spoon and the firmness felt ok but it was clearly too narrow. I might give the ladle a go but I'm not sure it's wide enough at 155mm. Do you have any feeling on whether it's just a bit wider than the spoon or very much wider?
 
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Kajjal

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Specialized do wider sizes in some of their saddles. I had similar issues and once I bought an avatar in the widest size I have had no issues at all on rides of 4 hours or more. With my previous saddle which was too narrow it was painful after an hour. It has a decent cut out.

When you say you keep sliding off your saddle do you mean forwards off the front ?

This could be down to bike setup with the saddle too high, bars too far away or less likely saddle too far back.
 

Goggs

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I bought a Sportourer Gel Flow Deluxe to replace the instrument of torture supplied as stock on my Cube Hyde Pro. The Sportoourer is excellent. Wide enough to give support, supple enough to provide some cushioning on harder hits & with a cut-out to relieve the really sensitive areas. Not expensive either.
 

srw

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I think it's because the construction of a leather saddle means the nose has to be angled up a fair bit for you not to slide off.
Can I disagree with this, please? A leather saddle, like any other saddle, should be set flat. If you're slipping off then it needs adjustment front or back, or the seatpost height is wrong.
 
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Randy Butternubs

Randy Butternubs

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When you say you keep sliding off your saddle do you mean forwards off the front ?

Can I disagree with this, please? A leather saddle, like any other saddle, should be set flat. If you're slipping off then it needs adjustment front or back, or the seatpost height is wrong.

I find with the saddle level I slid forward a little bit onto the narrower part of the saddle. I guessing this is to do with the hammock effect of a leather saddle - it sags in the middle when you sit on it. I thought it was quite normal to angle the nose of a leather saddle up a bit?
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
I find with the saddle level I slid forward a little bit onto the narrower part of the saddle. I guessing this is to do with the hammock effect of a leather saddle - it sags in the middle when you sit on it. I thought it was quite normal to angle the nose of a leather saddle up a bit?
If it sags in the middle then it's not tight enough. I've ridden Brookses for nearly 20 years, and none of them have ever started sagging. I'm not exactly lightweight, either.

Have you tried tensioning the leather using the bolt underneath?
 
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Randy Butternubs

Randy Butternubs

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If it sags in the middle then it's not tight enough. I've ridden Brookses for nearly 20 years, and none of them have ever started sagging. I'm not exactly lightweight, either.

Have you tried tensioning the leather using the bolt underneath?

The saddle is definitely not too loose. I'm not talking about a lot of sag, just a little.

In any case it probably isn't as important a factor as I thought; looking at my saddle today the area where your sit bones goes slopes down and forward. Its the same on the B17 I have.
 
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