Applying make up while driving

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Which episode?
 

StuartG

slower but no further
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SE London
Oh dear - I watched one a while ago as it was about a cyclist killed at night. Apparently the driver didn't notice and the loss of a headlight and other severe damage to the front of the car did not raise any suspicion. Eventually another member of her family persuaded her to own up. She wasn't prosecuted.

The police had found evidence that the cyclist had been drinking. So it was obviously his fault in reversing at considerable speed into a poor innocent car. So there you have it ...
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Oh dear - I watched one a while ago as it was about a cyclist killed at night. Apparently the driver didn't notice and the loss of a headlight and other severe damage to the front of the car did not raise any suspicion. Eventually another member of her family persuaded her to own up. She wasn't prosecuted.

The police had found evidence that the cyclist had been drinking. So it was obviously his fault in reversing at considerable speed into a poor innocent car. So there you have it ...

to be fair thats not the full story there is it. there was a huge thread about it on here a few months back and there were were a lot of other factors in the collision/incident/accident. i really CBA trawling the forum to find it
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
to be fair thats not the full story there is it. there was a huge thread about it on here a few months back and there were were a lot of other factors in the collision/incident/accident. i really CBA trawling the forum to find it
You missed the point. There were indeed many other factors involving both the driver and the rider and some of these were plainly illegal. However in the TV programme the police justified letting these all go because the rider had 'been drinking' with the clear fact in their mind that he was 'over the limit' which paradoxically is a driving offence but not a cycling offence.

The CPS may have had a hand in the decision not to prosecute the motorist but the point of the TV programme appeared to show a clear bias to the killing motorist. They never saw it as the motorist's reponsibility to drive beyond their vision/avoiding distance. And the CPS can only act on the evidence submitted. All in all a car-centric worldview was central. Not surprising as they were police drivers. There were other scenes when a bullying driver continuously trying to overtake to exceed the 30 mph speed limit was let off with a word in the ear. As a motorist myself I thought that too complacent.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
You missed the point. There were indeed many other factors involving both the driver and the rider and some of these were plainly illegal. However in the TV programme the police justified letting these all go because the rider had 'been drinking' with the clear fact in their mind that he was 'over the limit' which paradoxically is a driving offence but not a cycling offence.

The CPS may have had a hand in the decision not to prosecute the motorist but the point of the TV programme appeared to show a clear bias to the killing motorist. They never saw it as the motorist's reponsibility to drive beyond their vision/avoiding distance. And the CPS can only act on the evidence submitted. All in all a car-centric worldview was central. Not surprising as they were police drivers. There were other scenes when a bullying driver continuously trying to overtake to exceed the 30 mph speed limit was let off with a word in the ear. As a motorist myself I thought that too complacent.

ah the point that wasn't stated in your post. i am sorry, my mind reading abilities are somewhat impaired today
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I saw that too practice what you preach I say
I agree entirely. I sold the car so I now have to put my lipstick on at home instead!
 

ohnovino

Large Member
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Liverpool
BBC News:

A police officer has been disciplined after her force received complaints about TV footage which showed her putting on lip gloss while on duty. PC Claire van Deurs Goss was shown applying gloss while at the wheel of a police car in Monday's episode of Channel 4's "999: What's Your Emergency". A Lancashire Police spokesman said the force had taken "management action" after receiving over 50 complaints. She added that the PC's conduct had been "below expectations".
 
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And even more annoying was the fact the police force must have reviewed this series before giving the go ahead to broadcast - So presumably a senior officer watched this and didn't say "be better if we edited that bit out"[/quote]

I'm not so sure they'd have been able to. I would guess once they gave the go ahead for the cameras, then whatever was filmed was the property of the filmmaker, and up to them if they show it or not, especially if it's in a public place! They probably wouldn't be able to sow people homes etc without permission, but I doubt that the force would have much say in what footage they used - they wold just have to pick their 'stars' better :smile:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Applying lipstick while driving is not an offence - it's a highly unprofessional thing for a police officer to do in public view.

Being not in proper control is an offence, but you have to demonstrate an actual loss if control, not simply a potential opportunity.

These drivers that occasionally appear in the Sun under the headline "Prodecuted for eating a Kit Kat" are not stuck on for enjoying a tasty chocolate snack, but for swerving half into the opposite lane as a consequence of consuming such a treat behind the wheel.

For gross distractions, such a working on a laptop or reading a map then 'careless' or 'dangerous' offences may apply, depending on the circs.

But the act of topping up ones lip gloss while behind the wheel is itself not an offence. Alas, simply being stupid doesn't yet carry points, or two thirds of motorists would be dusting their old bikes off.
 
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