Another cyclist dead in London

[Luke Redpath]

Getting pretty fed up with reading reports of incidents involving cyclists and HGVs. RIP

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/cyclist-killed-in-crash-in-north-london-9989385.html

 

[numbnuts]

RIP condolences to family and friends
14 dead this year

 

[mustang1]

Just read about this a few minutes ago. Traumatic time for the family who has to receive the news from police.

Makes me wanna swear, but what will that do. Its crap news for the family. My condolences to them.

 

[subaqua]

Just read about this a few minutes ago. Traumatic time for the family who has to receive the news from police.

Makes me wanna swear, but what will that do. Its crap news for the family. My condolences to them.

its crap news for all involved . witnesses , the driver.

I am not going to speculate but read the comments lower down from a witness .

 

[Arrowfoot]

It looks like the same issue - travelling together and in the inside as one turns. Really sad and needless.

I feel we need to launch a big campaign on just this alone for the cycling community. I am sure we can avoid such incidents if we can get the message across.

 

[Markymark]

. I am sure we can avoid such incidents if we can get the message across.

To who?

 

[sarahale]

What a horrific way to die.

 

[summerdays]

It looks like the same issue - travelling together and in the inside as one turns. Really sad and needless.

I feel we need to launch a big campaign on just this alone for the cycling community. I am sure we can avoid such incidents if we can get the message across.

How can the cycle community stop this?

 

[mustang1]

its crap news for all involved . witnesses , the driver.

I am not going to speculate but read the comments lower down from a witness .

I see. I didn't read the article in The Standard, but the one at another cycling website. They did not mention the cyclist was in the inside line of the truck. Yes you're right, sad all round.

If it is the way the witness says, then, well, being on the inside line of any vehicle at a junction is not the right place to be for a vulnerable road user.

 

[summerdays]

I feel we need to launch a big campaign on just this alone for the cycling community. I am sure we can avoid such incidents if we can get the message across.

It depends on which this it was.

The one above. Cyclists can't prevent the situation occuring.

 

[Arrowfoot]

When UCL scientist Dr Katharine Giles died in a similar situation in August, I sort of kept an eye at junctions and stops. Most cyclists either made their way to the ASL or kept behind the lorries and HGVs. However a small niumber went alongside these vehicles not realising the danger. I don't think they understand the concept of blind spots.

 

[summerdays]

When UCL scientist Dr Katharine Giles died in a similar situation in August, I sort of kept an eye at junctions and stops. Most cyclists either made their way to the ASL or kept behind the lorries and HGVs. However a small niumber went alongside these vehicles not realising the danger. I don't think they understand the concept of blind spots.

And if the lorry/large vehicle comes from behind?

 

[glenn forger]

The deaths caused by HGVs are wildly disproportionate to their actual numbers. Therefore, we must assume that cyclists are MORE careless around HGVs than other vehicles. What else could explain it?

 

[summerdays]

It depends which way it was though. Driver putting themself outside cyclist and turning could be addressed with a campaign calling for better driver education and/or punishment where warranted. Cyclist putting them self inside lorry can be addressed by us educating people we see doing it etc.

Agreed that more education is needed, not just of cyclists as you say, but both sides.

 

[subaqua]

The deaths caused by HGVs are wildly disproportionate to their actual numbers. Therefore, we must assume that cyclists are MORE careless around HGVs than other vehicles. What else could explain it?

shakes head slowly sighing.