All in one bike - discs, steel, wider tires - 9kg

[samsbike]

I am not in the market but daydreaming is fun.

What I am looking for is the mythical beast where I can run discs, dynamo, guards and either steel or ti, all under 9kg. Also would like to run 35c tires.

So does this exist in a steel (unlikely) or ti format? I guess it could happen in carbon, but even bikes like the Genesis Datum are around 9.5kg and the penalty for steel is only around 10% (these without guards etc).

It may well be that this does not exist but my current ride is a ti, with all the above but runs at 14kg or so, which I feel is heavy!

cheers

 

[vickster]

I'm sure you could get a Ti bike

@jowwy how heavy is yours?

500g is hardly here nor there however...I doubt you'll find a 9kg bike with all of the extra gubbins unless you go silly weight weenie on all of the components and spend 000s to save that 500g

The Ti croix de fer is around 10.2kg in stock 105 spec, with lighter wheels, dura ace, carbon stuff you could get that down

 

[jowwy]

I'm sure you could get a Ti bike

@jowwy how heavy is yours?

500g is hardly here nor there however...I doubt you'll find a 9kg bike with all of the extra gubbins unless you go silly weight weenie on all of the components and spend 000s to save that 500g

The Ti croix de fer is around 10.2kg in stock 105 spec, with lighter wheels, dura ace, carbon stuff you could get that down

Mine comes in a little under 9kgs....with hanbuilt wheels, light tyres, sram groupset and pro finishing kit

 

[jowwy]

I am not in the market but daydreaming is fun.

What I am looking for is the mythical beast where I can run discs, dynamo, guards and either steel or ti, all under 9kg. Also would like to run 35c tires.

So does this exist in a steel (unlikely) or ti format? I guess it could happen in carbon, but even bikes like the Genesis Datum are around 9.5kg and the penalty for steel is only around 10% (these without guards etc).

It may well be that this does not exist but my current ride is a ti, with all the above but runs at 14kg or so, which I feel is heavy!

cheers

Your not going to get anywhere near 9kgs with all that kit on.......unless its a full pro race specced bike and than you add guards and dynamo yourself, but thats going to cost serious pounds from the piggy bank

 

[StuAff]

Running a Ti frame (Litespeed T5 Gravel). With 35mm (wired) tyres- Schwalbe Marathon Racers. And mudguards. And, since last week, a rack as well. Not certain what it weighs (guesstimate with the aid of an online bike builder that had most but not all of the parts used, 10kg all in, ready to ride), but heavy, by any definition normal people can and should apply (as opposed to your weightweenies user type), it is not. Strip the guards and back rack off and it would certainly get (back) down to 9kg. In which guise I rode it on my second-fastest century last year. Solo. In November.The beast you wish to build is mythical at least in terms of weight. Stop worrying about it.
And Datums do not weigh 9.5kg. The Di2 version is under 9kg.

 

[jowwy]

Running a Ti frame (Litespeed T5 Gravel). With 35mm (wired) tyres- Schwalbe Marathon Racers. And mudguards. And, since last week, a rack as well. Not certain what it weighs (guesstimate with the aid of an online bike builder that had most but not all of the parts used, 10kg all in, ready to ride), but heavy, by any definition normal people can and should apply (as opposed to your weightweenies user type), it is not. Strip the guards and back rack off and it would certainly get (back) down to 9kg. In which guise I rode it on my second-fastest century last year. Solo. In November.The beast you wish to build is mythical at least in terms of weight. Stop worrying about it.
And Datums do not weigh 9.5kg. The Di2 version is under 9kg.

He also wants to run some sort of dynamo.....which are not exactly light

 

[StuAff]

He also wants to run some sort of dynamo.....which are not exactly light

Indeed so. If you want a lightweight gravel bike, you don't stick all this gear on it....

 

[jowwy]

Indeed so. If you want a lightweight gravel bike, you don't stick all this gear on it....

Definately not

Even a pinarello dogma disc comes in at 7.2kgs full race spec......but you aint fitting 35mm tyres, guards and a dynamo on that machine

 

[outlash]

If something like Ritchey Swiss Cross disc frame had guard mounts, and spent silly money on components, I reckon you could possibly get under 10.

 

[jowwy]

If something like Ritchey Swiss Cross disc frame had guard mounts, and spent silly money on components, I reckon you could possibly get under 10.

Thats what i said.....it would cost you lots of pounds

 

[outlash]

Thats what i said.....it would cost you lots of pounds

I know, but a race CX frame doesn't have fripperies like guard mounts or bottle cage bosses so you'd need to find a steel or Ti frame that has a similar weight but the requisite mounts. Which is why I said 'something like'. If the OP stated Aluminium, it wouldn't be a hard search.

 

[samsbike]

Thanks all. Its been an interesting read and largely unachievable. I need to weigh my bike without the dynamo etc. I am just not sure if 14kg is reasonable for a fully loaded ti frame but I suspect I had not idea that mudguards, dynamos weight so much!

 

[jowwy]

Thanks all. Its been an interesting read and largely unachievable. I need to weigh my bike without the dynamo etc. I am just not sure if 14kg is reasonable for a fully loaded ti frame but I suspect I had not idea that mudguards, dynamos weight so much!

what Ti frame is it and can you list the full spec of the bike

 

[samsbike]

Burls Ti - 57cm with a 20cm headtube - with Kinesis carbon fork
Dynamo shimano with a mavic rim
Hope hub with a mavic disc rim
TRP brakes
full guards
shimano ultegra
carradice rack

 

[jowwy]

Burls Ti - 57cm with a 20cm headtube - with Kinesis carbon fork
Dynamo shimano with a mavic rim
Hope hub with a mavic disc rim
TRP brakes
full guards
shimano ultegra
carradice rack

hard to get the weight down on that - unless you remove the carridice rack

why do you need the dynamo hub??
what tyres?
saddle?
finishing kit?