After some advice on this lock

[Joe.R]

Hello All,

Firstly I appologise if im going over old territory!

I've got myself a Specilised hardrock sport disc mountain bike so wanted a good lock. I purchased the Magnum Plus Mini Shackle & Extender Cable

(Here) http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_231103_langId_-1_categoryId_165637

My main concern with this is that it doesnt fit through the back wheel and seat tube bue to being so small so im having to use the cable to connect the wheels. Is this ok and still as secure seams its not going through the rear wheel?

My main reason for getting this lock was so It would be easier to carry as sometimes I have a cammel pack on so find it hard to carry a large lock.

I hope Ive made sence and any help, advice or suggestions would be greatly recieved.

Regards

Joe

 

[Twenty Inch]

Hello All,

Firstly I appologise if im going over old territory!

I've got myself a Specilised hardrock sport disc mountain bike so wanted a good lock. I purchased the Magnum Plus Mini Shackle & Extender Cable

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My main concern with this is that it doesnt fit through the back wheel and seat tube bue to being so small so im having to use the cable to connect the wheels. Is this ok and still as secure seams its not going through the rear wheel?
My main reason for getting this lock was so It would be easier to carry as sometimes I have a cammel pack on so find it hard to carry a large lock.

I hope Ive made sence and any help, advice or suggestions would be greatly recieved.

Regards

Joe

No - you'll lose your wheel.

The cable is rubbish anyway - cables will only put off the most opportunistic thief.

I use a big D-lock and a motorcycle chain, that I leave at work.

SoldSecure is a bit of a scam, as the rating is based on how long the lock will resist attack by a thief armed with nailfile, a scissors, a staple-remover and so on. The reason they don't test locks with 48-inch bolt cutters is that no lock on the market would last longer than 40 seconds.

Some general rules: don't leave your bike outside overnight, keep it in view where people are passing, if you are commuting on it get an unsexy clunker.

 

[Joe.R]

Thanks for the reply, so really I need to be looking at a different lock would you say?

How does everyone else go about securing front and rear quick release wheels?

 

[GrasB]

If yours is anything like my '07 you'll have basically no space to put a full sized lock anywhere on the frame & Small D-locks are basically a no-no with the frame unfortunately.

So you get your self a decent chain lock & a frame bag to put it in, then you get a set of decent non-QR skewers, I managed to find some external drive torx & key skewers, for the wheels. Oh yeah, grab a non-QR seat post clamp & get a secure torx/ribe stainless bolt & don't use the a hex drive one.

 

[fossyant]

That's a good lock - Have you got no room to go through the rear triangle higher up - towards top of wheel instead. I've got a NY FAGGETIT and that's small, but is sufficient to go through top of wheel/triangle and round a sheffield stand - took a bit of practice.

I'd second using a motorcycle chain as well.

 

[HLaB]

Thanks for the reply, so really I need to be looking at a different lock would you say?

How does everyone else go about securing front and rear quick release wheels?

It depends where you are leaving the bike and how long. I use a similar type canle/ D Lock combo, usually I put one of the cable through the other end this gives ample length for securing the front wheel to the down tube and to reach the D Lock which I put through the rear wheel and around the frame and what I'm locking to.

For my commuter I've replaced the QR with allen key type skewer and only bother with a cable when I'm leaving it longer.

 

[GrasB]

I've found generally no, you've got loads of clearance on tyre which is good for mud clearing but is a right nightmare with the smaller d-locks. I either couldn't get the rear wheel in or couldn't lock the bike to something.

 

[Weegie]

...I purchased the Magnum Plus Mini Shackle & Extender Cable ... My main concern with this is that it doesnt fit through the back wheel and seat tube bue to being so small so im having to use the cable to connect the wheels.

I have the same lock, used in this manner...

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

The supplied cable would indeed be useless against any modestly tooled-up ned, but it's better than nothing. I use the cable to secure my front wheel while nipping round Tesco, but in a high risk situation, I'd be using a second d-lock for the front wheel.

 

[potsy]

I too have that lock + an Abus cable type lock about £30ish sold bronze secure.I find with the pair on I'm confident to leave it outside a shop/supermarket for a few minutes,agree it's not always easy finding somewhere suitable though.
Don't know how I'd feel if the bike was worth a bit of money though

 

[g00se]

Hi,

I like the idea of locking through the rear wheel inside the 'triangle' - I've always tried to get the frame included before.

It's made me think of something my other half always tells me - but I can't think why. And that is to always put the lock through the seat post and wheel - never the wheel and one of the stays (seat or chain). Any idea why she would think locking through one of the stays would be a bad idea?

 

[Riverman]

It's worth taking the weight of these locks into consideration. There is somewhat of a tradeoff here between weight and price.

No use trying to get the weight of your gear down on a tour and taking a heavy Dlock. I think I've seen some Dlocks around that are almost the weight of most bikes.

 

[Weegie]

Sheldon Brown thinks that it's fine to lock the bike through the back wheel (around the rim) inside the rear triangle, but not even around a stay. He reckons that cutting through a rim is nigh on impossible in this situation, and the thief would have no back wheel left.

Thinking more about this, there's one thing Sheldon perhaps didn't consider. A D-lock around the rear wheel AND chain stay is more of a visual deterrent, and that's important in keeping the opportunist neds away from your bike.

A professional thief will realise that a wheel D-locked in the rear triangle cannot easily be removed, and walk on. But your average bonehead might see an easy target ("hah, the frame isn't even locked, that wheel will just fall out...") and then cause considerable damage to your bike before realising it's actually impossible to remove.

 

[Slim]

If you need to keep the wheels secure have a look at Pitlocks.

For starters, they do not all use the same key so if someone else has another Pitlock key it would be highly unlikely they could unlock your wheels. You can also get matching keys so you can use the same key for both wheels and the seat post.


HTH