3p rise per litre in fuel duty ? ?

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20285940

I don't mind the rise, if it discourages people out of their cars.

I remember listening to a motorist that was talking on a London cycle hating radio station.

He said he could no longer afford to keep on filling up his expensive car all the time. So he said he was now forced to buy a second small car for the daily commute and can only use his expensive car for best. My heart bleeds.
 

mcshroom

Bionic Subsonic
Pump prices have dropped by more than 3p a litre in the last few weeks anyway.

The fuel escalator was introduced to discourage car usage, yet now it's starting to actually have an effect the politicians are getting scared.
 

snorri

Legendary Member
Is this a new venture for Which?
Carrying out opinion polls and trying to influence government policy, seems a bit away from their original function of providing independnt information to assist consumers.
 

screenman

Legendary Member
GC, why not move to somewhere where there are fewer cars? I would imagine your choice of county quite well populated. I Personally I for one cannot do my job without the use of a car or van, so the increase in fuel price would not be welcome.

Come to think about it there are 3 of us in this family who use a car for work, my wife a Chiropodist needs the car for rural customers, my son a retained firefighter would not get to the station in time without his, he has tried the bike but the distance and time scale means averaging 26 mph up hill.

Unfortunately not having worked for the BBC for 54 days and received a nice pay out for failure I will have to keep driving for a few more years.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
GC, why not move to somewhere where there are fewer cars? I would imagine your choice of county quite well populated. I Personally I for one cannot do my job without the use of a car or van, so the increase in fuel price would not be welcome.

Come to think about it there are 3 of us in this family who use a car for work, my wife a Chiropodist needs the car for rural customers, my son a retained firefighter would not get to the station in time without his, he has tried the bike but the distance and time scale means averaging 26 mph up hill.

Unfortunately not having worked for the BBC for 54 days and received a nice pay out for failure I will have to keep driving for a few more years.
We tried it, lived in West Wales for a good few years.Not that much call for my skill set in more rural settings tbh.

The lovely Helen chooses to live near the bosom of her family and her Altzheimers wracked mother, all of whom are in Sussex/Surrey, and I do so love the lovely Helen. But I chose to take a job within cycling distance (20km) of home, and now must endure the 85% of cars driven with single occupancy owned and operated by the
  • 49% of the population in England and Wales who travel less than 5 km to work
  • 68% of the population in England and Wales who travel less than 10 km to work
  • 83% of the population in England and Wales who travel less than 20 km to work
 

Saluki

World class procrastinator
shame it isn't 30 pence. The roads would be quieter.
A rise like that would just about put me out of business. With a fledgling business, every penny counts for us and with 30kg of kit to cart about and a lot of South Norfolk to cover, its not practical to commute to my customers with a bike and trailer.
 

green1

Über Member
A rise like that would just about put me out of business. With a fledgling business, every penny counts for us and with 30kg of kit to cart about and a lot of South Norfolk to cover, its not practical to commute to my customers with a bike and trailer.
A rise like that would put the UK out of business.
 

screenman

Legendary Member
GC, good points. I have never been able to understand the single occupancy thing with people going to work at the same place. I still think your thoughts are slightly selfish, then again I suppose you would be happy to pay all the extra costs of transportation etc.

That said myself and my family would all rather cycle to work than drive if that was at all possible.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
GC, good points. I have never been able to understand the single occupancy thing with people going to work at the same place. I still think your thoughts are slightly selfish, then again I suppose you would be happy to pay all the extra costs of transportation etc.

That said myself and my family would all rather cycle to work than drive if that was at all possible.
Guilty as charged but then I'm not burning the earth's limited fossil fuels and polluting the place to get to work which gives me a certain sense of moral superiority over those who are.;)

and yes, I'd happily pay more for goods and services if increased fuel costs for transport of goods saw a decrease in the use of private cars. No one has ever shown me the sums which demonstrate the cost of my weekly shop is going to go up by a material amount if the costs of fuel goes up by 3 or 30 or 300 ppl.

When I rule the world I'll let hauliers and public transport providers claim rebates on their fuel taxes and subsidise them from the taxes raised on private motor vehicles.
 

snorri

Legendary Member
The fact is we have lived with cheap road fuel for 60 years and designed our built environment and adjusted our lifestyles accordingly. There must be change now, some will suffer more than others, but I am sure there will be opportunities too for those that can spot them.:smile:
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
what makes me laugh is those that bemoan the rise but fly on a regular basis.

I am with Greg on this. and just to ensure some people don't think i have an easy life with bikes and public transport in London. i grew up in rural wales. we coped on crap public transport and bikes. i went to college 12 miles away on public transport and my bike.
 
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