Anyone know someone who's xl bully has been affected by the law that came into effect today?

[oldwheels]

I have just come on this thread and have a short true story.
I was aged about 3 years old when we moved to a different house in East Lothian in the late 1930s.
When we arrived with furniture van a Jack Russel was sitting on the doorstep and had apparently been left by the previous tenants.
It was friendly and no problem so we just kept it.
Next morning postman arrived and walked to our door when the dog appeared and fastened on his ankle.
He complained to the police and the constable arrived on his bike and dog did the same.
We were allowed to keep the dog as we were three miles from the nearest village.
I took it for a walk one day to a nearby farm called Peace Farm and met a surgeon who lived locally with a bull terrier.
The inevitable happened and our dog tore an ear off the bull terrier. Once separated the other dog owner sat down with his dog between his knees and reached behind his jacket lapel where he kept a needle and gut to sew his dog’s ear back on.
He remarked that that was the first time he had ever had to stitch up his own dog.
When we left that house we also left the dog for the next people.

 

[rogerzilla]

Jack Russells are psychopathic. A neighbour's killed all their geese, killed another neighbour's cat, and had a go at killing my cat (which was largely uninjured, being a Very Hard Cat, but my mother had to go to A&E after pulling them apart). Shortly afterwards, the dog found some rat poison, ate it, and died. Few tears were shed.

 

[icowden]

Jack Russells are psychopathic.

They are bred to be:-

Jack Russells are first and foremost a working terrier.[41] Originally bred to bolt foxes from their dens during hunts, they are used on numerous ground-dwelling quarry such as groundhog, badger, otter, and red and grey fox.[42] The working Jack Russell terrier is required to locate quarry in the earth, and then either bolt it or hold it in place until they are dug to.[citation needed] To accomplish this, the dog will not bark but will expect attention to the quarry continuously. Because the preservation of this working ability is of highest importance to most registered JRTCA/JRTCGB breeders, Jack Russells tend to be extremely intelligent, athletic, fearless, and vocal dogs.[13] It is not uncommon for these dogs to become moody or destructive if not properly stimulated and exercised, as they have a tendency to bore easily and will often create their own fun when left alone to entertain themselves, leading to the semi-affectionate nickname among suburban pet dogs of "Jack Russell Terrorist".[citation needed]

 

[lazybloke]

My friend's JR was certainly destructive when it got through a door and destroyed an entire litter of kittens.

 

[Time Waster]

They are bred to be:-

JRTs are not bred to be psychopaths at all but to be working dogs. All such working dogs need above many other talents to be intelligent and trainable. If you are a domestic owner and have a problem JRT that is down to the owner not the dog or the breed. It is like Border Collies are often known for tearing up the house in boredom. It is training and lack of fullfilling the dog's needs.

JRTs are among the most amazing breeds out there if well trained and well treated. They are also misunderstood. The snappy dog for example. NO! That is how the owner brought it up and looked after it.

My grandparents had one that was actually 3 years older than me. It was the most protective and caring dog I have ever known. It was not allowed upstairs but when we were staying there it was always waiting halfway up the stairs for us to wake up and be with it. When we were due to arrive it would be sat by the front door all day waiting. It just knew when we were coming. In fact it went crazy 15 minutes before we arrived in the late afternoon or evening. My gran used to get the supper laid out for us and it was always out because the dog told her to get it all ready!

Then when we left the dog spent the day next to the front door crying for best part of two weeks. We only saw it twice a year but it was so well bonded for us. It never bit anyone or anything. It was trained and had controlled. Like any dog needs to be.

I am sorry but JRTs are not the dog that popular theories claim it to be. It is a better dog than its public image but it is a working dog and that is the crux of the issue. People without looking after it as a woprking dog needs causes all the issues and that is the same with all working dog breeds. Indeed any breed. Look at the little toy dogs, picked up when it goes agressive to other dogs instead of being trained to stop it. Picking up is giving it reinforcement for the bad behaviour. Owners are often the cause of all their dog's faults starting from buying an inappropriate breed through to raising it from puppy to adult dog and onwards through its life.

PS can you tell I am a fan of JRTs and working terrier breeds?

 

[lazybloke]

JRTs are not bred to be psychopaths

Neither are grizzly bears; some behaviours are just inherent.

 

[matticus]

Jack Russells are psychopathic.

I think you mean "fearless, and vocal"

 

[Electric_Andy]

We had a JRT growing up. He was the softest dog you could wish for. We once had a premature lamb that we put in his dog bed in front of the Rayburn , and the dog sat there all day and guarded it. The only bad thing he did was kill my sister's guinea pig when it got out, but we'd always praised him for killing rats so it was to be expected. Weirdly the family who owned the dogs brother got rid of him because he nipped at everything and everyone

 

[Time Waster]

Neither are grizzly bears; some behaviours are just inherent.

Not the same at all. JRTs are intellegent dogs capable for training which is certainly needed for working dogs. Like the Parson Terrier they have to be able to work with other dogs when they were used as earth dogs with fox hunts. A psychopath dog would have been torn apart by the hound pack. It seriously does not go with the work it was put to.

What could have created a lot of the myths about JRTs? Well, they are a small dog, some might say cute. They are very common but not many actually have an professional need for such dogs. So they became used as kind of lap dogs or pets for less mobile owners. These are dogs that if brought up that way can go on all day. They have stamina and are faster than they should be. They are brave, fearless some say but above all they are incredibly loyal even protective. Their intelligence is deceptive and they do need stimulation. Everyone pretty much know that an unstimulated collie will get into mischief but people do not see that some of the issues with other breeds is of a similar cause. Namely the dog's needs for activity and or stimulation is not met. It is probably true that most problem dogs are due to their needs not being met. They are not handled right.

I have met som many JRTs that are not at all like what some of the myths make them out to be. IF you have met such problem JRTs then I would bet that it is the owner's fault in most of the cases.

 

[Time Waster]

We had a JRT growing up. He was the softest dog you could wish for. We once had a premature lamb that we put in his dog bed in front of the Rayburn , and the dog sat there all day and guarded it. The only bad thing he did was kill my sister's guinea pig when it got out, but we'd always praised him for killing rats so it was to be expected. Weirdly the family who owned the dogs brother got rid of him because he nipped at everything and everyone

What was the difference? Well I bet from when the owners took those dogs from the litter they would have had a vastly different upbringing and handler style. The owners of your dog did a good job, the owners of the brother dog did not. It is not a breed fault in and of itself but what the owners do with the breed. Any dog can be bred to be snappy. In safety tests carried out in USA the worst dogs are pomeranians, that mexican rat dog and other small " toy" breeds (I really hate that category name as no dog is a toy and to call that class of dog such is so negative and a problem I think). JRTs are actually middle to better end of the scale. They do not deserve their reputation.

 

[Drago]

or possibly deliberate anti dog attitude??

it is not difficult to imagine a Police Officer having a grudge against that type of dog

It probably wasn't a warranted officer responsible.